The following was written by Nora for Les McLeay who has written and published a history of the McLeay family in New Zealand

The following was written by Nora for Les McLeay who has written and published a history of the McLeay family in New Zealand.  Mum contributed this and a piece on her father for the book.

Nora Elizabeth McLeay
By Nora Frost

I was born on 25th July 1918 to James Findlay and Amy Swale (nee Wyeth) McLeay. We lived in Christchurch whereas the rest of the McLeay and Wyeth families had stayed in the deep south.

On 18th November 1920 my sister Lucy was born. She was a delightful little fairy with Golden curls and looked very frail whereas I was solid and more placid Our childhoods were entwined as my mother always insisted Lucy went everywhere with me except when we went south every two years.

On most of these occasions I would be left at Gore with Aunty Pat and Uncle Bert. When I was 4 and a half I was left there for 6 months and went to school over the paddocks. Aunty Pat was always very close to me as was Uncle Bert. I don't know where Mum and Lu spent those 6 months but I guess back in Christchurch. Lu was Mum's pride and joy.

At the age of five and a half I started school, it was there that I met Joan Suckling - the youngest of 9. Her brothers were great teases calling Lu and I Nora Bone and Loose Elastic. Suckling’s was a great place to play as Mr S who was in a shoe company used to bring home wooden cases with which we made houses. They had a beautiful cherry tree and we would be under it when the cherries were ripe and eat the windfalls. We really ran wild over there - making mud pies with Mrs S's cake tins and putting them under the house to cook; playing in the Nursery where the boys slept, and mucking up the beds. I guess Mrs S was working, as she was a schoolteacher.

It was Essie Suckling who asked Mum if she could take Lu and I to Sunday School and so began a long association with the church. One that was to influence all our lives. Lucy and I were both painfully shy because we had not mixed with other children in our early days. These were the days of the Depression but we were very lucky as Dad always managed to keep his job. One family down our street lived on parsnips for a week, as that was all they had in the garden.

Mum had a great friend called Cissy Lindsay who came to our place on Wednesdays and Sundays. She absolutely adored Lu but it is Joan Suckling who remembers her most fondly as she worked in a sweet shop in Christchurch and at Easter would provide us with lovely Easter eggs - Joan included. Joan told me some years ago that they were the only Easter Eggs she ever got. Joan has reminded me of the Easter Cissy hid the eggs all nesting in brown paper nests in the garden and we had a treasure hunt.

At the time of preparing to go south when I was 8 I burnt my right arm. We had been to a party at Mark's - the rich people two doors away. They owned an Ice box that was replaced regularly and a Pianola. At the party we were all given celluloid dolls. Mum was very busy getting ready to go south and I wanted her to take the dent out of my doll. She said she must go to the outside toilet first. I had seen her taking the celluloid doll to the gas ring to take the dents out but I didn't realise she had the steaming kettle on it. I lit the gas and proceeded to do the job myself - The doll caught fire and stuck to my hand I did not want to set the house on fire so rushed outside with my hand blazing. I can remember Lu and mum screaming but I did not feel a thing. Mum called for Mrs Philpot - the most compassionate lady in the district (except where her husband was concerned) She put me to bed and sent for the doctor a very unusual move in our day. Of course the holiday to had to be delayed until I was better.

Mum got Cissy who belonged to St John Ambulance to come to stay with us to nurse me, Cissy was not a compassionate nurse. She was tough with me. She had to heat wax on the range and pour it over my arm about twice daily - a method used in the war. When I was well enough to travel we went south. I was left in Gore. Poor Aunty Pat could not dress my arm but Uncle Bert did it with much love.

I think it was about this time they asked to adopt me because Aunty Pat had not produced, due to a very serious operation in Christchurch a few years before but Mum would not let me go. From the age of 12 I looked after Mum - going to get her library books and messages after school. I did not realise at the time how competitive I was at school I met an old school mate in the supermarket. He stopped me and said how I had upset him every Friday by beating him at arithmetic. I was a real swot who had to be top whereas our Lu was a natural. She had great talent in singing and art. In those days we were both very interested in Sunday school. Lucy was very frustrated, as Mum could not afford speech lessons. At about 15 we started teaching Sunday school. I taught the infants, they were delightful. Lucy tired of Sunday school quiet early in the piece and moved on to Bible Class. When I started Avonside High School I got my first bike. That meant I could go to town and pay Mums bills. Mum sacrificed a lot for us to go to Avonside in return I cared for her. She was a glorious singer but never had a piano. She sang all day anything from Opera to Modern songs. She had 5 medals for singing. I am sure with the opportunity Lu could have been just as good.

At 15 I started going out with boys as we used to go to Cottrell's Store just around the corner, every Saturday Night. Ruth Cottrell was older and I was allowed to go out under her wing. She had two brothers Basil and Frank in addition to a handicapped older brother Wally. We formed a club and started having outings. One night it was a mystery trip to Cave Rock in Sumner. We passed objects around that had to be identified - one a fowl’s foot but when they passed us a raw sausage or a string of them I threw them to the winds; no one else had a chance to touch them.

Our trips south had stopped at this time as Granny Wyeth had died on her 72nd birthday, 9th Aug. I was 11. Grandfather died 4 months later. He starved himself to death.

At 16 I left Avonside Mum did not own a coat, but she had visitors galore to stay. One of our visitors was to be the delight of our life - Mabel Phillips whose husband was the Station Master at Arthur’s Pass came for two months and produced a beautiful baby girl called Brenda. Charlie and Mabel played a very large part in our lives. That Christmas they had Lu and I for 6 weeks during the school holidays. It was the holiday of my life. I well remember the Rata and the Glaciers. With two boys who knew the area well we explored the glaciers.  This was my last holidays as the following Christmas I was looking for a job.

I got a temporary job for two months at the Fruit and Vegetable Markets. Even though I had my Chamber of Commerce Bookkeeping and Shorthand theory for 2 months I simply could not get a job. My speed on typing and shorthand were never great although I went to Digby's at night

Church took up a lot of our time; in those days it was a privilege to teach. Peter Witty, the curate at Holy Trinity had stiff rules. If we did not attend 8 o'clock Church or Teachers Class on Tuesday nights, then we were not allowed to teach. It was a tough but a good grounding.

Eventually I found a job at a small Insurance Office, just the Manager and me. I did all the books, Typing, and managed the Office. I was there for 15 months. During those 15 months my passion for ballroom dancing blossomed. I was not allowed to go to the public dances - just church ones. Jean and I biked far and wide to go to Dances. Avonside, Opawa, where we stayed with Essie Chant.  During this time I made friends with some girls who worked along the corridor. They were Roman Catholic so I could go to their dances as well. After 15 months when I had to have a raise the Insurance Company asked me to find another job. They gave me a very good reference but could not afford to pay more.

I found my next job, very quickly. It was with HG Livingstone and Co, Estate Agents and Antique Auctioneers. I was employed as a typist and Rent collector. Rule Livingstone was the Accountant. Working at Livingstones was great fun we had all kinds of auctions including chocolate biscuit auctions. David Livingstone, who was training to be a Doctor, was a frequent visitor and when we had our first refrigerator for sale he licked the icebox and got his tongue stuck, he lost the skin off his tongue.

I met Lloyd just before I turned 20 when he came to Avonside as a Sunday school teacher. He was painfully shy we were friends for about 8 months before we started going out together. Rule and HG Livingstone were both in the Territorials in the Canterbury Mounted Rifles Cavalry Division; they encouraged Lloyd to enlist, which he did. The three of them were in camp when War was declared and were all to overseas with the first echelon however Lloyd wasn't 21 so he didn't go and nor did HG. Shortly after this Lloyd was invalided out of the Territorials when his feet gave way.

When Rule went in 1939 I was put in charge of the office and took on the accounting work, an office junior employed to help. In 1940 HG went to Palmerston North as an Officer at the Officers Training Camp. This left the only male in the office an alcoholic auctioneer. Another Auctioneer was employed but could not be in charge over Gunny so I was put in charge. At this time Mrs Livingstone was diagnosed as having cancer and it fell to me to look after her as well. This often involved staying at Livingstones looking after Mrs L outside office hours and running the firm during the day.

On 8 December 1942 Lloyd and I got married. Lloyd was in Inangahua at the time but the Railway had agreed to transfer him to Amberley when we married. I continued to work in town arriving by train at 10 am each morning and leaving at 4 pm each night. This lasted for four months until Lloyd slipped while shunting and invalided to an inside job. I had the brainwave that Lloyd should do his accountancy which would mean attendance at Christchurch Tech for some papers so we had to move to Christchurch rather than Reefton as had been the suggestion.

We were very lucky to get sent to Woolston as the Station Master’s house was vacant which meant we lived relatively close to the station, it was in 1946, while we were at Woolston that Anthony was born. During our time at Woolston the Station burnt down set alight by vandals.

After 6 years in Woolston Lloyd was transferred to Lyttelton as Station Clerk, quite a happy time until the Watersider’s strike in 1951. Lloyd was offered the position of Station Master Culverden if we could do our own packing and be ready to shift in 3 days - we were ready and we did shift to Culverden on the Monday.

We were in Culverden for two years and lived in the Railway House - House No 1 Culverden. The house was set in a large paddock of long grass and surrounded by very large trees - a constant fire risk in summer. When Anthony was four and a half the headmaster approached us to let him start school with the headmaster’s daughter who was the same age. Wayne our second son was born in 1952. In Culverden there was no Sunday school so we rang the bell every Sunday morning instead. Once again the Station burnt down. When the District Manager came to inspect the damage he took me aside and suggested I was holding Lloyd back and stopping him from using his accountancy. I told him that Lloyd didn't want to go to the brick building in Wellington which he saw as going back to school and have to put up his hand to go to the toilet. It was agreed that we would go to Dunedin instead where Lloyd would be an Audit inspector.

In Dunedin Lloyd travelled about 60% of the time but was home at weekends. It was while we were in Dunedin Gary was born at St Margaret's Hospital with 5 students and No doctor in attendance. Gary had nearly been born at home but his size 9 lbs 11 oz had precluded that. It was in Dunedin that we learnt how bad a next-door neighbour could be. Not realising that she was a compulsive liar we initially believed many of her stories. But the Toomer family the neighbours on the other side of her made up for it. On one occasion she had burnt off some grass and set the very large hedge between us alight, in those days we didn't have a telephone so I went in to use her phone. I had dialled 111 and was speaking to the Fire Brigade when she came running in shouting "it’s getting away.”  The Fire Brigade sent three engines to a fire that Mr Toomer had put out with our garden hose by the time they arrived.

In Dunedin we both got back into Sunday School teaching at the local church.  With Lloyd away so much the strain of three children was not easy so we agreed to go to Wellington.

It was shortly after we arrived in Wellington that I found out I was over 4 months gone with our forth baby Graeme. Whereas Mum had come down to Dunedin for 4 months when Gary was born to help she refused to come to Wellington saying that Lloyd Frost could look after his own kids, so Lloyd took his annual leave. Mum’s sister Essie was living in Upper Hutt and she helped a great deal, looking after the older ones while Lloyd came down to the hospital. Graeme was 5 months when Mum finally came north and was disgusted with herself for staying away from "this delightful little bundle" for so long.

Although Lloyd didn't have to travel to the same extent he was still away for a very long day leaving at 7.15 am and not getting home until 6.15 at night, and once he started working as a computer programmer, at times much later.

When Graeme was 2 years old I started teaching Sunday school again and joined St John Ambulance to get out of the house.  St John Ambulance in Upper Hutt was rather slow while they covered sports and the races they didn't have the involvement with the ambulance. With Upper Hutt St Johns I sat my advanced home nursing and advanced first aid. I became very involved in Cottle Kindergarten fundraising and was Treasurer of the Management Committee. Fundraising for the new kindergarten took up a lot of our time in those days. Some years later I asked the boys if they had begrudged the time Lloyd and I had put into Cottle Kindergarten but they pointed out that they had been involved as well and thoroughly enjoyed it. The fundraising covered the cost of the kindergarten with £900 left over towards the running costs so we certainly had worked hard.

After Cottle Kindergarten Lloyd and Anthony started raising money for the St John Ambulance hall. Lloyd became senior Bible class teacher and by this time we were already junior Sunday school combined supervisors. The Cottle block at this time had a huge number of children so both the Sunday school and Bible class were well attended. Lloyd and Anthony arranged dances to give the Bible class young people something to do on a Saturday night and later on we ran a youth festival as part of the hundred years celebration for the local church. I really blotted my copybook that night. Gary and Graeme had been with a baby sitter all day and at 10pm I went to get them. A large group of youths, who hadn't had tickets to get in, played chicken with me as I tried to leave. Being nervous about going back I rang the police from the baby sitters. I got thoroughly hauled over the coals when it was discovered all the troublemakers were police cadets. At the next vestry meeting we were not thanked for running a very successful youth festival, but censored for having called the police to a church dance.

At this time we were also involved in raising money for a new church hall, so life in Upper Hutt was a very busy succession of fund raising ventures.

In 1960 we got our first car, a Ford Prefect in which we travelled many miles over the lower part of the North Island. Anthony, Lloyd and I all got our drivers licence. Just before we left Upper Hutt, we sold the Prefect for a Ford Consul that remained in the family for many, many years.

In 1963 we transferred to Christchurch where Lloyd was District Accountant. This was to prove to be one of the happiest times of our lives. The boys were seven to seventeen when we went back to Christchurch. The transfer to Christchurch meant the end of twenty-five years of Sunday school teaching for both Lloyd and I.

Shortly after we arrived in Christchurch, Lloyd developed severe dermatitis on his hands and had to be brought home at lunchtime every day to soak his hands in Condes Crystals. At work the office girls took turns at working at an extra desk in his office so that they were available to do any writing that he needed doing.

St John Ambulance in Christchurch was very stimulating and involved not only the normal sporting events and race meetings but also work on the ambulance. One of my favourites was doing duty at the ice-skating two or three times a week during the school holidays. With the large number of accidents, one particular day we had to call the ambulance three times, this was a very worthwhile duty. I also thoroughly enjoyed helping with the cadet competitions and had started working one day a week on the ambulance when Gary developed rheumatic fever and for four months was not allowed to walk at all. This meant that when there was only Gary and I at home I had to piggyback him to the bathroom. Gary's illness was mainly over the school holidays so not a lot of school was missed but he did manage to read from cover to cover the major part of the Britannica Encyclopaedia. He was very lucky that he suffered no heart damage and after a few years was able to go back to competitive sport.

We were eight years in Christchurch the later part of which I worked for Red Cross meals-on-wheels and was a meat cook on Mondays. We used to prepare over two hundred meals and I recall one week helping prepare fourteen sacks of cauliflowers for the meals.

In 1969 we returned to Wellington and I insisted that we bought a house in the same area as we had lived before and where we knew a number of people. On Lloyd's fiftieth birthday he had suffered a heart attack, the first of four over the next fifteen years. In Upper Hutt I rejoined St Johns ambulance, but missed the level of involvement I had had in Christchurch. When Graeme was in the sixth form I became quite involved in Heretaunga College and was treasurer of the Home and School for that year.

For most part of the last ten years my major task was nursing Lloyd through his polymyositis, a degenerative muscular disease that affected his entire body over time.

My four sons are all grown up and spread throughout New Zealand, Australia and South East Asia. I have eleven grandchildren and one great grand daughter.